It seems that many people outside of design have little knowledge of Design and as such do respect it as a profession/trade. I always hear 'oh I'll just go to a student and chuck 'em Â£30 for my logo' or 'my budget is only 50p' or 'so and so has said they will do it for 50% of your price, will you compete?' I just wonder where else in their lives they do this? If they need a plumber or mechanic do they go to a college and try to pay a student a tuppence to fix their pipes or car?! Or when given a price do they say that another garage will do it for half?! People do not seem to understand or care that if you pay a cheap price for design it will affect the final product. I cannot think of many or even any other products/services that suffer from this? Prostitutes? Thoughts? I'm aware this may have come up before and that this may possibly even be a repost, if so apologies. It's frustrating dealing with some clients, maybe having nothing to do with them and just designing was better lol.