MattRich
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Thank you. I guess it's a case of knowing your stuff and sticking in there until you find some decent clients. Sorry to drive this thread off topic. I have posted another thread on this subject.
The average cost of design per hour....
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Thank you. I guess it's a case of knowing your stuff and sticking in there until you find some decent clients. Sorry to drive this thread off topic. I have posted another thread on this subject.
scotty
Ultimate Member
Haha, maybe I'll join you!
You're more than welcome @Inkbot Design it's awesome.
Right now I'm hiding in a bush.
SH-H-H-H-H.
Vladislav
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I love your character . You made me smile with every post ^_^
scotty
Ultimate Member
Groan!
I'm no marketing professional or anything but even I can see that you may be selling your services in the wrong place all together.
You are essentially trying to sell your design service to a forum of professional designers.
We do this for a living.
I mean, would you go to a cobbler to try to sell them shoes?
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ash
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This is an article I found very helpful ( http://www.fastcodesign.com/3025992/how-much-should-you-charge-for-design-work-a-guide ); a simple reminder what to take into consideration when charging, since I am always struggling, especially when getting a piece that will require me to learn new skills. ( I simply can not guess the trial and error time of new/very old software, industry research, gathering all tools, etc.)
ankur saha
New Member
I think artist should be hired on base of his skill and creativity not on a fixed rate
I'm surprised by how little a lot of people are charging.
£30 an hour is quite cheap, imo.
£30 an hour is quite cheap, imo.
@GCarlD
Well-Known Member
It depends whether you are a sole trader or a limited company etc, with staff wages to pay, business rates and so on. If it is the latter then £30 p/h would not be feasible.
I am a sole trader, I charge a set rate on a project by project basis but I do work out my quotes based on a £35p/h rate and £30p/h for amendments.
I must be doing ok then, as I charge £50 an hour, design only, print quoted separately with a 100% markup.
@GCarlD
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I didn't know you were a sole trader, I thought you ran you own printers for some reason? Must be due to your superior knowledge of design for print
Oh yeah, printing costs are quoted completely separately from design costs. They depend on how much the printers quote, which I have no control over.
An obvious point with regards to a designer's charges is the 'calibre' of clients they have. Obviously, if a designer has clients with very large pockets, wallets and purses, then charging under £50p/h would be foolish. I wouldn't charge a new start-up the same rate as a large, established corporation. If you can't make some extra buck off a big client, then what's the point?
Other factors include; your valued worth, quality of your work, professionalism, experience etc, etc.
Oh yeah, printing costs are quoted completely separately from design costs. They depend on how much the printers quote, which I have no control over.
An obvious point with regards to a designer's charges is the 'calibre' of clients they have. Obviously, if a designer has clients with very large pockets, wallets and purses, then charging under £50p/h would be foolish. I wouldn't charge a new start-up the same rate as a large, established corporation. If you can't make some extra buck off a big client, then what's the point?
Other factors include; your valued worth, quality of your work, professionalism, experience etc, etc.
Paul Murray
Ultimate Member
Better to miss a client because you're too expensive than to win them because you're too cheap…
I work full time - but I run a side business as I have for almost 20 years now. I've never really wanted to work for myself full-time, I like working for companies - and I like my side business.
At the end of the day if I wanted to give up either, I could comfortably.
Yes - there are clients, like charities, startups etc. that I give a separate package to. And there's higher end clients that get a different package altogether.
At the end of the day if I wanted to give up either, I could comfortably.
Yes - there are clients, like charities, startups etc. that I give a separate package to. And there's higher end clients that get a different package altogether.
@GCarlD
Well-Known Member
This is the perfect example of that - I received this message from a potential client about an hour and a half ago today:
Notice how they said they 'can't afford my expertise', not my quote or fees, but my 'expertise', as they understand it's not just a logo they will receive, it's the whole service from start to finish. They didn't even try to talk me down, as they know my value/ worth.
Would another designer charge more? Probably yes. Can they get their logo done cheaper? Absolutely 100%. Yes, I have lost out on the work and making some much needed money but I know my quotation is reasonable. I charged a few hundred quid, so in the short term I probably lost out on a couple hundred pounds (possibly less) assuming their budget was even that amount, but in the long term, I have saved money by means of time, as I can now focus on finding other clients that are happy to pay my worth.