Social Media Kit

TJury

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Hello. I recently had a logo done on <<removed>> that comes with a "social media kit" for an extra $10. I am not quite sure what that means, or if I should purchase one. I assume it means the logo will be resized to fit things like Facebook cover photos, Youtube banners etc? I have no experience with graphic design, but I can only assume that resizing things can't be too difficult and shouldn't cost an extra $10.

Thanks a lot for the help!

Tim
 
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Sorry, we do not allow mentions of any sites that undervalue graphic design in anyway.

This is called spec work - https://www.nospec.com/


The fact that you're even using a site like that is worrying. How much do you value your business? Do you think it's worth $10? Is that all you are willing to put your name as a business? Is that what you value yourself?

The fact that you don't know what "social media kit" even is, and then asking is it worth an extra $10? If you don't know what it is and how valuable it can be to you and your business - then how can you query it? As you say, you have no experience with graphic design, so how can you say that resizing things can't be too difficult?

How much do you think it should be worth, if not $10? How many social media sites are there? Facebook, instagram, snapchat, twitter, twitch, linkedin, etc. All with very different settings and sizes.

For 1 social media site, it would take roughly 30 minutes to resize an item. What's the minimum wage where you are? Is it roughly £7.05 or $7.25usd???

Anyway, minimum wage is for unskilled workers. Graphic design is a skilled trade - how much per half hour would a skilled worker get - roughly $25 per half hour I would say.

If you wanted 6 social media sets then that's 3 hours work. Your real cost for resizing icons is $150.



Every day, there are more and more online requests seeking artists for everything from auto graphics to comic books to corporate logo designs. More people are finding themselves in need of some form of illustrative service.

But what theyre NOT doing, unfortunately, is realizing how rare someone with these particular talents can be.

To those who are seeking artists, let me ask you; How many people do you know, personally, with the talent and skill to perform the services you need? A dozen? Five? One? none?

More than likely, you dont know any. Otherwise, you wouldnt be posting online to find them.

And this is not really a surprise.

All over the world, there are almost twice as many neurosurgeons as there are professional illustrators. There are eleven times as many certified mechanics. There are SEVENTY times as many people in the IT field.

So, given that they are less rare, and therefore less in demand, would it make sense to ask your mechanic to work on your car for free? Would you look him in the eye, with a straight face, and tell him that his compensation would be the ability to have his work shown to others as you drive down the street?

Would you offer a neurosurgeon the opportunity to add your name to his resume as payment for removing that pesky tumor? (Maybe you could offer him a few bucks for materials. What a deal!)

Would you be able to seriously even CONSIDER offering your web hosting service the chance to have people see their work, by viewing your website, as their payment for hosting you?

If you answered yes to ANY of the above, youre obviously insane. If you answered no, then kudos to you for living in the real world.

But then tell me why would you think it is okay to live out the same, delusional, ridiculous fantasy when seeking someone whose abilities are even less in supply than these folks?

Graphic artists, illustrators, painters, etc., are skilled tradesmen. As such, to consider them as, or deal with them as, anything less than professionals fully deserving of your respect is both insulting and a bad reflection on you as a sane, reasonable person. In short, it makes you look like a twit.

A few things you need to know;

1. It is not a great opportunity for an artist to have his work seen on your car/zine/website/bedroom wall, etc. It IS a great opportunity for YOU to have their work there.

2. It is not clever to seek a student or beginner in an attempt to get work for free. Its ignorant and insulting. They may be students, but that does not mean they dont deserve to be paid for their hard work. You were a student once, too. Would you have taken that job at McDonalds with no pay, because you were learning essential job skills for the real world? Yes, your proposition it JUST as stupid.

3. The chance to have their name on something that is going to be seen by other people, whether its one or one million, is NOT a valid enticement. Neither is the right to add that work to their portfolio. They get to do those things ANYWAY, after being paid as they should. Its not compensation. Its their right, and its a given.

4. Stop thinking that youre giving them some great chance to work. Once they skip over your silly ad, as they should, the next ad is usually for someone who lives in the real world, and as such, will pay them. There are far more jobs needing these skills than there are people who possess these skills.

5. Students DO need experience. But they do NOT need to get it by giving their work away. In fact, this does not even offer them the experience they need. Anyone who will not/can not pay them is obviously the type of person or business they should be ashamed to have on their resume anyway. Do you think professional contractors list the experience they got while nailing down a loose step at their grandmothers house when they were seventeen?

If you your company or gig was worth listing as desired experience, it would be able to pay for the services it received. The only experience they will get doing free work for you is a lesson learned in what kinds of scrubs they should not lower themselves to deal with.

6. (This one is FOR the artists out there, please pay attention.) Some will ask you to submit work for consideration. They may even be posing as some sort of contest. These are almost always scams. They will take the work submitted by many artists seeking to win the contest, or be chosen for the gig, and find what they like most. They will then usually have someone who works for them, or someone who works incredibly cheap because they have no originality or talent of their own, reproduce that same work, or even just make slight modifications to it, and claim it as their own. You will NOT be paid, you will NOT win the contest. The only people who win, here, are the underhanded folks who run these ads. This is speculative, or spec, work. Its risky at best, and a complete scam at worst. I urge you to avoid it, completely. For more information on this subject, please visit www.no-spec.com.

So to artists/designers/illustrators looking for work, do everyone a favor, ESPECIALLY yourselves, and avoid people who do not intend to pay you. Whether they are spec gigs, or just some guy who wants a free mural on his living room walls. They need you. You do NOT need them.

And for those who are looking for someone to do work for free please wake up and join the real world. The only thing youre accomplishing is to insult those with the skills you need. Get a clue.
 
Like hank said, $10 just means you are using cheap junk service. I’d put money on your logo not being worth what you paid for it. How much consultation did they do? What market research was involved? Did they discuss colours, fonts, sizes and ask about your target customer? Do they know why you even think you need a logo?
 
I appreciate the responses but I fully realize that I am not ordering high quality work. I'm just building a website for fun and needed cheap work done. Could you guys possibly recommend me a forum that is a tad less "intense" that I could just ask a few basic questions to? Thanks.
 
Well why didn't you say that at the start?

There is no way we could have possibly known that!

Fire away, ask as many questions as you like!

The intensity comes from that we get requests like this every week. We have a great community and want to keep that. I'm sure you understand.
 
I appreciate the responses but I fully realize that I am not ordering high quality work. I'm just building a website for fun and needed cheap work done. Could you guys possibly recommend me a forum that is a tad less "intense" that I could just ask a few basic questions to? Thanks.
In which case why not just crop the image yourself for the SM sites. Resizing is a doddle on both windows or a mac or even using one of the many free online services.
 
Just thinking about this again - I did answer your question - in regards to is it worth $10 to have images resized for different websites. It's extremely cheap, as I said before, it takes time to do it, and time is money.

I found this site - https://sproutsocial.com/landscape
Have not tested it - but it looks like it could work for you.

Actually just tested it there - it works quite well.
 
If you're not sure what's in the social media kit then just ask whoever is supplying it. Don't pay for something without knowing exactly what you're getting. Whilst I don't agree with the business model, people still have to eat, and $10 for an hour of someone's time isn't much to pay. It's a lot less than I'd probably charge anyway.
 
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