Help a mother out!

emrenn22

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Hi guys, I’m a 40 year old wanting to train in Graphic design. I’m very lucky to have the time, support and money to do this! Which I’m trying to use as my mantra while navigating all this change. Other than GCSEs I don’t have any specific qualifications but I am confident in design on paper, host painting classes (where I guide others) and I make packaging designs for my husbands business. I use skillshare for mastering Adobe PS/illustrator.

A local college is running an art & design diploma and I am already accepted for this course. However to get a career in graphic design I’m essentially going to need more! (And to build a portfolio) I have seen online courses with shillington but I have no idea who or what is a reputable place to start, hence me coming here for wisdom.

Thank you
 
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No idea, never heard of shillington, which doesn't mean it's good or bad.

As a career, get the basics right, I have no idea what your skill level is - but sounds to me you'd be better off seeing if a local company print or design would offer you some paid internship work to get you going.

Post some of your work here I suppose and we can take a look.
 
Every time, I’d suggest the art & design foundation course and then a 3 year degree and then 4-5 years experience in a studio. No short cuts I am afraid if you want to make a career of it. As hankscorpio says, you may find a company willing to offer paid internships, but I wouldn’t be holding my breath. Even then, I’d still go the degree route first for all the advantages in both learning and opportunity it will bring. Personally, I’d avoid online courses, as a good part of design eduction is peer and lecturer critiques.
 
Honestly, and this is coming from someone who is 40+.... I would not be looking to train in graphic design (for a career) now unless you are in a very unique bespoke hand made type area and even that might not be enough..... why AI...
The progress in just the last few years (we'll ignore legalities and current court cases) of AI art and design generation is going to make it a lot harder for people to get into design, hell some of it it's going to make it harder for existing designers....

You also have so many 'template' services already and imo it won't be long for them to combine a template service with AI to basically replace us with a few clicks, yeah we'll still have the niche areas but you will need to be VERY good for that.... we've already got schools being concerned over chatgpt for written content, bing and google are now previewing their AI driven search results which could end up damaging web design (no need to visit the site etc)....
 
It sounds like you're going about things the right way already, dipping your toe into plenty of different areas to get the feel of what you might want to focus on further down the line.
I too would be wary of online courses unless they are relatively cheap and/or short, or you have the choice of dropping out if it's not appearing to be fruitful.

Full-time education is key, of course, but even then some courses are better than others. There's nothing to stop you building up your portfolio and experience by doing freelance jobs
at the same time. Post up some work here and we will tell you honestly if it seems you have the talent to make a living at it.

I think Levi is being a bit pessimistic when he says one has to be top drawer or ultra niche to make it as a graphic designer nowadays. There are plenty of areas where a talented
designer will find work for a while yet - packaging, advertising, local authorities, publishing, art courses, logos, illustration to name a few.
 
There are plenty of areas where a talented
designer will find work for a while yet - packaging, advertising, local authorities, publishing, art courses, logos, illustration to name a few.
I agree. What will fall foul of the kids with Canva are those jobs that were never career builders anyway; flyers for the one-man pizza delivery parlours; local garage business cards, etc. Those were good to cut your teeth on for learning as a student, but typically they were from clients who wanted the work done for £25 anyway (then again, as a student, £25 was a king’s ransom). Well, now they can have it for that or less, and executed with less skill than a student would ever do. They can even do it themselves. It is not a great loss to the industry – though it probably is to their businesses. Serious clients (I hope) will always need serious designers. Ultimately, it is not about flyers and local business cards, it is about strategy and understanding how to talk to the right people in the right way, via the work you produce.

I spend most of my time designing books and playing with type and although one day I can see a time when AI will put a book together, mechanically and practically, just as well and as experienced book designer, I am not sure if AI will get there with interpretation and tone of voice. Who knows? If it does hopefully it'll be after I’m long gone!

I am still fairly optimistic about the industry, although at the lower end, things can make the whole industry appear bleak. These things have a habit of coming full circle. Remember the days when serious corporates produced their collateral using DTP and a handy secretary. Didn’t work. They soon realised it. Now, no serious corporate body would dream of it.

Websites are another example. Initially, it needed a specialist to put one together. Now there are so many DIY sites out there, yet work seems to be growing for UI and UX designers – I do some, but it’s not my thing. I still like type and ink on paper and the smell of a book when you first open it.

Anyway, @emrenn22, for me, the only way, as Wardy says, is get as much knowledge via a good education as you can in many areas as you can. Find which area of design you like best and pursue it. Knowledge and ability are what will make you employable in the end. You have to be tiers above the kids with Canva.

It appears that you have the financial leeway to be able to pursue this. The question is not, should you or shouldn't you? It is, will you regret it if you don’t ever try.

Of course, you’ll need to be realistic about your options and possibilities. Top studios are full of 20-odd year olds with the bright ideas, plastic brains, very little cynicism and endless possibilities. That doesn’t mean you can’t make a career though. It’ll be difficult, but then again, has that ever been different? Everything worth having always is.

Also, a Wardy says, use this place. Post work, get critiques. They are invaluable. You have to develop a thick skin to not take them personally. You will sometimes get brutally honest critiques, but they are always intended to help you grow, not knock you down.

Good luck.
 
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