Recent content by Renniks

I'm confused why you can use the argument that most developers understand something, yet we can't use the argument that most developers understand compliant coding is better. I'm confused why people not knowing a better technique means you shouldn't use it, there is after all, enough...

NB Post #63 - http://www.designforums.co.uk/web-coding-development/6394-sometimes-ok-use-tables-non-tabular-data-5.html#post73390 is my own opinion I reserve the right to not care what anyone is saying about my opinion, especially when using numbers or their opinion to refute it - hence - it...

Ok, easy to finish this topic (involving Mark A at least) No one can say that it isn't quicker for you - as that is a personal thing - why it is quicker is irrelevant - if it's quicker for you - fine No one can say what your or your clients priorities are - they are a personal thing - why it...

Apologies Chris :) Just infuriating when someone's only arguments involve complaining about mass acceptance, and speed of implementation. Oh and I imagine most companies would prefer to uphold to an EU recommendation that could stop them being Sued for not having an accessible website. I...

a) Nothing - though I question why it's quicker b) It SHOULD be a priority for the client, after all it is part of the EU's recommended web accessibility guidelines - irrelevant of whether it's a priority for you, it should be for all clients. EDIT: people have been successfully sued for not...

How is the number of people agreeing irrelevant? A screenreader is made to accommodate the largest amount of websites in the best possible manner The best method for this is to aim for a standard The current web standards are the only standards If they aim for them, so should we

Actually, you started the topic (not the thread) by saying that it is ok to use tables The problem you gave, the vertical alignment, the best solution IS standards compliant code, for everyone except yourself it would seem. After all, it's 'quicker' to write out a table, then style that table...

Well done :D regarding the stan lee foundation - while the work they do is amazing - I feel that for certain tasks they could get more interest by stan fronting some memorabilia or such. They had their logo design recently (no idea if that's gone through etc.) and if they offered some rare...

*pokemon style* Sunburn, I choose YOU! *throws sunburn pokemon into the battle and watches it destroy EVERYTHING* ^_^

Argument against using any form of table for non tabular data - from a non form of authority - eg Me Tables are announced in a number of screen readers, so the user can browse through the table, for the results to then not be tabular data is bad accessibility, I for one believe good...

(Just to clarify, if he doesn't add it in, Harry knows full well that tables for tabular data is correct, but no-one is talking about that)

Less elegant? Less elegant would be using a method of displaying styles with something that isn't meant for that purpose. Less elegant would be using something that has been proven to be worse for accessibility, page loading times, maintainability and the like. So I know which method I would...

So for one (or a minority of) reason(s), you stop using css and divs and resort to tables. It's all easy enough use css's display:table; and it's relative stuff to make it work and use position relatives/absolutes/percentages for ie6/7 Much much more maintainable, much more dynamic, much...

I'm with Jaz here, there is no reason to use tables except for tabular data. They aren't designed for it, so it makes it more difficult, in general - some people will find this different But I think that's a lack of education (sorry if that offends you, I don't mean a lack of intelligence, but...

I work at a University, over 20% of our site views are still on IE6, we can't ignore it, no which way you set it. If we outsource any development work, those who take it on HAVE to give ie6 support. Like greg said, it's not your clients using it, it's their users