We've all seen the epic logo fails, most being of an 'unintentional' saucy nature (am sure they know in a lot of them – great publicity) but I enjoy the logos clearly designed by managing directors/CEO's, or their dog. The arrogance is quite astonishing as they don't seem to appreciate, in the slightest, how important image is for business, and any layman/punter/potential customer looking at a clumsy logo could be instantly lost to any competitor simply because theirs actually looks professional. I don't want any business to fail but I guess I have worked for too many twats who employed designers but still thought they knew better. I can just imagine board meeting on this one: "Ooh, ooh – there's another 'V' in 'advanced' and . . . holy potatoes, an 'S' in 'vision'. Cancel the designers . . . I think I've nailed it." I bet he needed a change of underwear straight after that one, but I may do too for different reasons as it's livery too, and homepage is also riddled with my pet hates: http://www.cylex-uk.co.uk/reviews/v...vanced-vision-surveillance&companyId=14191259 Text formatting is also clearly for losers, isn't it , Mr. Francis? Advanced vision clearly does not apply there . . . Delicious.