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HTML At Degree Level

Alex L

Senior Member
Thought I'd give you all a chuckle and a little insight in what someone on a Computing degree learns.

Have my exam on Monday so reading through the slides by means of a little revision.

A couple of quotes:

Viewing the source code for almost EVERY serious html web page will show tables in use
Often the whole body of a document is a table
A code example:

Well worth the money...
Are you sure this isn't a Computing History Degree?

This is bad, but not too surprising.

Most half decent developers know about modern coding standards, but whether or not they fully get the interplay between markup, CSS and front-end scripting - and can code it all up properly - is an entirely different matter.

Also, there are other critical elements which need to be a part of the process from the outset: IA, navigation design, UX/Usability, copywriting, etc - does any of this get taught on a degree course, or is it assumed that specialists in these fields will be involved?

Alex L

Senior Member
This module, doesn't really go in to much by way of usability (don't get ahead of yourself there, that's second year stuff). In fact, when we were meant to be putting our new found knowledge to practice, I was discouraged from using anything other than tables.

For my assignment, we were given a bit more flexibility so that ended up okay. Have received 80% - 95% for each done so far.


Well-Known Member
Wow. At worst it seems like the tutors are well versed in out-of-date practices, at best it seems like they're trying to give you an understanding of what came before as building blocks to develop from.


Junior Member
I recently tutored a clients son, GCSE level IT.
Part of his exam was that he had to create a webpage that used a marquee!!..scary.


Junior Member
OMG can't believe this, I was speaking to someone else that was using a table, he said divs were to messy, i proved him wrong, turned out he didn't know how to use divs lol, it's really a must now adays to use divs for layout :)


Junior Member
Hi all,

I'm pro DIVs for most of the markup of a page, especially for the main layout, and from IE7 onward if one has a good experience in webdesign, can do a neat cross-browser design with them (IE7+, Firefox 3+, Chrome, Safari).

BUT I don't consider tables obsolete. Indeed I don't use them for the layout design itself, but for any kind of tabular data, I do. That includes form controls (label - input), actual data tables, calendars, some grouped content, etc. For these specific cases I find them a lot easier to use than DIVs.

So to conclude my opinion: Don't forget tables, just know when to use them.