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haka cartoon

Discussion in 'Graphic Design Forum:' started by davewill, Nov 5, 2010.

  1. davewill

    davewill Senior Member

    hi guys,
    Im working on a project for a client who has asked me to produce 4 cartoon style illustrations showing various moves from the New Zealand Rugby Teams haka. The illustrations will be used in a publication for kids aged 5-11 so they have to be quite child friendly, bold and simple. I have done abit of illustration in my time, but i am by no means an expert so I would really appreciate peoples comments on how they think I can improve.

    I have attached a sample showing what I am working on at the moment, I feel like he is abit flat and needs something extra, I just dont know what. Feel free to critique, all comments welcome!
     

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  2. Thewholehogg

    Thewholehogg Active Member

    Hi Dave...the drawing is fine.

    Try to have different line weights and make the character not so symmetrical.
    Add shading/highlights and tone to bring more form to the character...remember your light source.

    However for a target reader of 5-11 it's not far off.

    It's your style stick with it.
     
  3. Levi

    Levi Moderator Staff Member

    hmm, hair colour is wrong in my opinion, should be black/dark brown as Māori are usually dark haired.

    And as said by Typo, shading from a light source would help.
     
  4. davewill

    davewill Senior Member

    thanks guys, thats good advice. I think i struggle to make characters live off the page, alot of what I do looks flat and 2 dimensional. An additional problem with the pose attached is that they asked for the guy to have both his arms bent out like shown which makes him look symertrical and static. The additional poses I have just finished sketching include much more movement so do help the overall look. Ill post some updates as soon as I can. Cheers guys
     
  5. Greg

    Greg Active Member

    Hi Dave,

    I'm no illustrator so could be wrong, but I'd look at your shading on the shirt/shorts to help lift it out from the page, think about the shapes you might get with creases, etc, something along these lines perhaps:

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    Hope that helps,
    Greg
     
  6. glenwheeler

    glenwheeler Senior Member

    I like it mate, i'm no illustrator I might have a try sometime however! I've looked at some of Typo's work, and its pretty damn neat! I think he's given some good advice there. Ken Reynolds is also very good, he might spot this and give you some advice too...hopefully....maybe....
     
  7. Thewholehogg

    Thewholehogg Active Member

    Thanks Glen.
     
  8. davewill

    davewill Senior Member

    thanks for your comments guys, Ive developed the illustration since friday after the helpful comments from the DF'ers above. Ive also drawn the same guy in 3 other poses so Ill post the latest versions as soon as I get a chance, thanks again for all your help so far
     
  9. Thewholehogg

    Thewholehogg Active Member

    Nice one...post em up fella when your done.
    Here's the clown from the Comic Sans thread.....Look out!:mad:
     

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  10. davewill

    davewill Senior Member

    Lovin the psycho clown typo! Heres my latest version of the haka illustration showing the 4 poses. The work actually specified that each player is seen by himself on an A4 sheet but I thought I would show them on here as a set to save posting 4 separate shots.
    Thoughts anyone?
     

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  11. Thewholehogg

    Thewholehogg Active Member

    Nice one Dave. I'm liking them.
    Howabout bringing still more form to the character...
     

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  12. davewill

    davewill Senior Member

    Wow typo, I love that! Have u just done that now? The speed in which u produce quality work is awesome!
     
  13. Thewholehogg

    Thewholehogg Active Member

    Cheers Dave, yup it was a tad rushed but put together to show you how to 'do' shadows and tone.
    How have you coloured up the originals?
     
  14. davewill

    davewill Senior Member

    I draw them by hand, scan in the line drawing then trace over it in illustrator so I have paths to work with.then I normally copy it into Photoshop and do the colour there. How about you?
     
  15. Thewholehogg

    Thewholehogg Active Member

    You don't really need to redraw in Illustrator if you are going to colour up in Photoshop.
    Just draw up, scan, open in Photoshop...muck about with the levels. Change line art level to Multipy.
    Make new level then colour up. I can email you some nice brushes if you like. PM me.

    Only make Illustator line work if working up image as a vector.

    There you go....give it a go.
     
  16. davewill

    davewill Senior Member

    thanks typo, ill try that out, sounds like it could save me plenty of time!
     
  17. Thewholehogg

    Thewholehogg Active Member

    Yup, should speed you up a tad....

    Let me know how you do sir.
     
  18. Adam

    Adam Senior Member

    I think you're on the right track, my only glaring issue I have is on the 2nd Character (in the one of all 4) his hands/arms look really weird
     
  19. Thewholehogg

    Thewholehogg Active Member

    Sausage machine fingers indeed...cartoon hands...three fingers, one thumb.
    Maybe they need some work.

    Hows it going with your new way of working Dave? Speeding you up at all?
     
  20. davewill

    davewill Senior Member

    i havent had a chance to try it yet typo, been snowed under with other briefs (like this agency christmas card!) so ill let you know when I do. Thanks for the comments tho guys, i appreciate it, you both make excellent points and im well aware there is much room for improvement!
     

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