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Body font limitations

Discussion in 'Font Forum:' started by Xenonsoft, Mar 23, 2009.

  1. Xenonsoft

    Xenonsoft Active Member

    Another thread, didn't want to pull the other off topic.

    My question is as such:
    (Without special tricks) Are these the only fonts available to use to work on all computers?

    It dawned on me just now that there may be some fonts in word* that aren't available for internet use, and firefox/safari/IE may have different fonts available to them.

    Cheers.

    * - Using this to decide on which font to use for my body copy
     
  2. pangolin

    pangolin Member

    I wouldn't have thought fonts would vary from browser to browser, but from OS to OS, dependant on what fonts were installed as the default fonts on installation (as you'd have to assume not everyone would download new fonts)

    http://www.upsdell.com/BrowserNews/res_fonts.htm#a01 has a 'common fonts' list, covering Windows 2000/XP/Vista, Mac OS X and Linux Unix
     
  3. berry

    berry Active Member

    I'll post a list tommorow.
     
  4. Greg

    Greg Active Member

    Hi Fred,

    As pangolin says it's dependent on the OS more than browser, that's while you'll often see groups of web safe fonts, 'Arial, Helvetica, Sans-Serif' - So first it would look to use Arial if that isn't available Helvetica, etc.

    There's a handy site/tool I posted a while back that lets you view various fonts, and it tells you if they're PC/Mac standard, and it also lets you grab the CSS for them :up: http://www.designforums.co.uk/web-design-layout/905-typography-tool-web.html

    HTH
    Greg
     
  5. Xenonsoft

    Xenonsoft Active Member

    Cheers all. I'll check that site again Greg, cheers. I look forward to the list, if you have time, Berry :)
     
  6. matt

    matt Member

    Call me old fashioned, but if you're typesetting for a website i.e. to be viewed almost exclusively on low resolution screens, then you should stay clear of faces that were specifically designed to be printed onto paper. The whole point of body text is that it's easy to read at smaller sizes, which is achieved with good colour, balance and contrast. Many faces loose these attributes on screen because of the huge difference in resolution between printed media and what you see on an average computer monitor. Instead look to fonts designed with web usage in mind; Lucinda and Verdana to name but two.

    As Greg and others have mentioned, there's a list of what's likely to be installed on your average machine, depending on font foundry's licensing agreements with OSX and Windows. From this list, reserach fonts and test therm in usage before making a decision, please don't choose one just becuase it looks nice.
     
  7. Xenonsoft

    Xenonsoft Active Member

    Cheers for your input Matt.

    I hope the term 'body' I'm talking about isn't getting confused. What I mean by this, is simply the main text on a the website, such as for this site it seems to be arial, around 10-12pt.

    I'm not sure I really agree that there is much difference between print and web regarding how fonts display. Clearly, in print it's fixed, it wont change, and on the web safari will render a little differently to firefox. I realise there are many other factors like resolution, but that's each users choice, and they can scale it up or down as they choose. Obviously I'll test at different resolutions before launching the site though.

    My point is though, that they're still the same shapes, they can still have a large amount of contrast (albeit not as much as on print). Regarding display at small sizes, I wont be dipping below 10 or 12pt, so it should be legible enough. What I'm saying is, that the differences don't hold a massive grasp on the way I'll use them.

    Arial was designed for print, but really works on the web. It's one of my favourite body fonts, it may be a rip-off, but it's certainly versatile and easily readable.

    That's my two pence, your opinion is most certainly interesting and welcomed, please reply if you feel the urge.
     

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