Are all designers inventors ?


Liam_1991

New Member
Well thank you gents, I appreciate all advice that I desperately needed!


I think I'll post a propsotion/tender in the correct forum.
In regards to marketing, branding and business development.
This is something I want to do my self. I enjoy it and built my last business, using my own methods. How ever that was a service, I know the reward for a successful product is much larger than my last occupation.

I am a entrepeuenr by heart, I fear working for people, the thought of basic salary is extremely hard to swallow.
I've been self employed all my life.
I have given so much of my time and energy into my last business, only now I've committed time towards my passion.

I just desperately need to talk to people to get the ball rolling!
I've done my research, I'll be writing a solid business plan as soon as I have some idea of costing for the product.

Thanks again guys !
 

Liam_1991

New Member
Yep! I'm always interested in "getting something for my portfolio" with the chance of more unpaid work in the future. ;)

Actually. Scrub that.
Last time I was sarcastic like that on the old forum I got people PM-ing me to ask me. o_O
Scott, I just cast an eye over your webpage.

Looks awesome ! The set out if excellent!! Very creative !
 

Liam_1991

New Member
Say for example you chose to work with me (from limited info it does sound like something I'd be able to do) you would send the idea/sketches/prototype/images, basically as much info as possible that I can use, to me and I would then refine the workings and/or work on the aesthetics and could produce a 3D render of the product or supply stl files (usual format) for 3D printing which you could either outsource or print at home via an off the shelf printer. Your idea would be safe because you can put it under a non disclosure agreement (I do this automatically anyway) where the other party would be liable for info leaking out. You'd be surprised how often I've worked off napkin sketches lol

You would pay me at a set price and the only thing that I would retain as 'my property' would be the work files which aren't part of the job (ie [edit for clarity] the stl files/2D plans etc you would need, not my files for the rendered image) unless it's agreed in the price that these are transferred over. Depending on the project the price can include a percentage of the sales from the product but I'll be honest and say I personally don't like this because there's no guarantee that there's any return.

I would also be careful when dealing with companies that focus on getting your product off the ground, they sometimes work out very expensive for very little gain. To be fair there's probably enough people on the forum to deal with all aspects of that side of things outside legal. We've got people who deal with marketing, we've got cad/3d (me), we've got printers (Boss Hog is one) and we've got people like Scotty and Paul (there are others) who specialise in things like branding, graphics and illustration.

As to the exclusive offer yeah feel free stick it in the tenders section or if you'd prefer to keep things quiet until the legal stuff is done you can PM me for my email address to just take a quick look and give you some ball park costs.
Hey Levi,
Would you be interested in reviewing my idea?
im getting a good vibe, after reading this comment.
What's your thoughts ?
 

Levi

Moderator
Staff member
Yeah I'm happy to take a quick look at it, I'll give you a pm (I'm sure we have that feature somewhere, not used it on the new forum platform lol) with my email address. Let me know what you'd like to have done with anything you send, ie plans, renders, 3D printing that sort of thing, the more info the better, don't worry if it sounds weird :)

edit: pm was waiting for me so I replied...
 
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AlanNunez

Member
So building from your answer. What would be the best route for some one who has the ideas, but lacks the design skills?

But keep in mind that cost is a factor, so would it be attractive for a designer to team up with the guy with the ideas?
I would either partner with someone with the right skill set or find a contractor that you can hire to do the part you can not do...The later being my preference as partnerships can be problematic.
 

Paul Murray

Moderator
Staff member
Paul, I hate it when Dyson (and apple) are said to have invented something when all they did was take an existing product from a different field and repurpose it for their own needs. They didn't invent it they re-engineered it which is completely different.


One of my ex girlfriends used to say of James Dyson "All he did was stick a ball on a vacuun cleaner…"
 

AlanNunez

Member
Paul, I hate it when Dyson (and apple) are said to have invented something when all they did was take an existing product from a different field and repurpose it for their own needs. They didn't invent it they re-engineered it which is completely different.
I don't see Dyson or Apple as inventors but as great innovators, designers and marketers
 
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