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Anyone Use An iPad Pro?


scotty

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#1
Just as the title says really.

Yesterday I popped in to see the guys at the a company I often work with.
I took to opportunity to take back the Wacom Cintiq that they gave me as I just don't use it and I don't like the responsibility of having a £1400 bit of kit laying around.
I found the Cintiq didn't really work for me with the way I work and as I don't really have a designated work area, I found setting it up and packing it away a bit of a pain.
I found my old Bamboo was way better and I just went back to using a pencil and photocopy paper.

Whilst I was there we were chatting creative sh@t and getting WAY to giddy and an iPad Pro got brought out.
It was the boss's daughters's and was in a pink protective foam case so I wasn't that impressed but he fired up Procreate and told me to have a go with the iPencil thing.

BOOM!

I was sold and I now need one like a shark needs to swim.
We had it hooked up to a projector so I was drawing on the studio wall.
It was everything I hoped the Cintiq to be.
The right size. Portable, No cables and power bricks. No fan blowing on my MacBook.
Procreate is easy, intuitive, uncomplicated and put the fun back into drawing and I was totally hooked and it felt like the first time I used a Mac.
It even recorded what I was drawing and made a time-lapse movie of it. O.....M.....G! :O
It was like a simpler version of Photoshop so no over complicated actions and tools to tempt me away from just drawing but you can export to .PSD, air-drop it to a lappy and get all funky there in Ps.
All that and I'd barely scratched the surface.

I can see having one of these not only speeding up my work flow but also making it easier and more enjoyable and that's not even going into all the other stuff it can do.
One of the other guys there had only just had a go and he was the same. We were all like little kids having an epiphany moment. :D

Procreate is £9.99 and there's even a simple version of Illustrator available for FREE!

Does anyone else here have one and how does it work for you?

BTW. There may be a Wacom Cintiq coming up for sale.
Hardly used. Still in the box. ;)
 

Wardy

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#2
Hey Scotty, that sounds interesting. I've been thinking about getting a Cintiq myself, but the smaller version, which isn't much more than
an iPad Pro anyway. It's still a big chunk of money to fork out. I'd be interested to know what you think you'd be using it for - is it just to sketch
with and then take into Ai and work on further?
 

Levi

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#3
Before buying the iPad Pro, you might want to try the new iPad thats just been released as it now supports their stylus too (sorry can't call it a pencil) Obviously it's got limitations/restrictions but it might be enough for you needs if all it is like sketching ideas etc.

Having said that I'd still personally pick a Surface pro over an iPad, everytime I use one (edit:) ,an iPad, (/edit) I feel that even the simplest things seem to be more complicated or convoluted than they need to be.
 
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scotty

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Hey Scotty, that sounds interesting. I've been thinking about getting a Cintiq myself, but the smaller version, which isn't much more than
an iPad Pro anyway. It's still a big chunk of money to fork out. I'd be interested to know what you think you'd be using it for - is it just to sketch
with and then take into Ai and work on further?

I'd personally give it some serious thought and if you can, try and have a go or even borrow one if you could.

I've always been a big Wacom fan so I was well giddy at the thought of using a Cintiq.
We got two. One for me as a Designer and Illustrator that tends to work in vectors and another for someone who is a classically trained artist who uses Ps when working digitally/
I was very disappointed. :(

Firstly, when I opened the box I looked at all the cables and thought "WTF!"
There's a lot and they're quite chunky.

You need to plug it into the wall and into a computer as well so you need a lot of desk space.
I'd imagined sitting on the sofa or in bed but that's a no go.

I also had a few issues with the display size as the menus and UI were really small in PS and AI but that might have been my mistake.
I was also using a newish, pretty high end MacBook Pro linked to it and it made its fan blow like a bugger which made me feel a bit nervous.

You really need to have it on a desk and I didn't really get on with that as you can't move it around like a sketchbook.
I also found the screen to slick and slippy as you don't get that drag that you do with a pencil.

It worked great with Photoshop though but I found it more of a hindrance with Ai apart from using the pencil tool which it was good for.
I thought it may replace using a mouse/trackpad in the same way as a normal Wacom did but it didn't.
I even thought it may be really good for sketching out ideas but I found I just preferred pencil and paper.

The other guy who is a traditional artist and works a lot like you used his a lot pretty much as you'd imagine as his stuff is more painterly.
Still though. I don't think it was quite what he was hoping due to the issues above.

When he and I had a go with the iPad Pro it was like "this is what we hoped the Wacom was like".
You really can't put it down.
Using it with Procreate is awesome.
Like having every art tool and material in the world and you can drop in images and do all that stuff like Photoshop.
It seemed to handle some pretty huge .PSD's easily as well.
They're trading in the Wacoms now and getting higher end iPad Pros.
Plus, with the iPad it does all the other stuff and the Wacom is just a drawing tool that's not portable.

I'd only really use one as a digital sketchbook but I need one now so God knows what a difference it would make to you Wardy?

I guess you'd find the Wacom to be great but I was really disappointed and didn't use it even though I tried to make myself.

I'd have been gutted if I'd bought it out of my own pocket.
 

scotty

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#5
Before buying the iPad Pro, you might want to try the new iPad thats just been released as it now supports their stylus too (sorry can't call it a pencil) Obviously it's got limitations/restrictions but it might be enough for you needs if all it is like sketching ideas etc.

Having said that I'd still personally pick a Surface pro over an iPad, everytime I use one I feel that even the simplest things seem to be more complicated or convoluted than they need to be.
If it's better that the iPad then even better but I've not had a go with one yet.

Another thing to remember is that you need to but the iPencil stylus thing extra which are around £90-£100.
 

Levi

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#6
If it's better that the iPad then even better but I've not had a go with one yet.

Another thing to remember is that you need to but the iPencil stylus thing extra which are around £90-£100.
You'd also need that extra cost with the iPad Pro (and annoying now with the surface pro too :(... I hate this 'extra hidden cost' lark) so you can kind of ignore that extra cost as a differentiator. You should be able to try the new one in about a week if you've got an apple store etc nearby although the cpu is a a10 fusion which is iPhone 7 cpu from what I've read.
 

scotty

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...and another thing that's a bit shit about the Wacom.

It's not a stand alone bit of kit.
You need to use your keyboard too for certain things, especially if you rely on keyboard shortcuts although you can programme some of them into the Wacom.

Felt a bit like Jean Michel Jarre when i was using it, ;)


 

Wardy

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#8
Thanks Scotty. Yes, I'll definitely look into the iPad. I'd gone off the Cintiq a bit anyway as I don't do a hell of a lot of digital painting.
I'm quite happy with my Intuos/Ps/iMac combination, so I'd be more inclined to try and find an app that would replace Ps in the long run
and most of them seem to be just for the iPad or tablet etc.
 

scotty

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You'd also need that extra cost with the iPad Pro (and annoying now with the surface pro too :(... I hate this 'extra hidden cost' lark) so you can kind of ignore that extra cost as a differentiator. You should be able to try the new one in about a week if you've got an apple store etc nearby although the cpu is a a10 fusion which is iPhone 7 cpu from what I've read.
I'll deffo do the Levi and thanks for the tip as I know bugger all about them just that they's AWESOME to use.

To be honest, I'll probable end up getting an older one from eBay as it'll do all I need and a hell of a lot more.
I also get all 'precious' with brand new Apple devices. ;)
 

scotty

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#10
Thanks Scotty. Yes, I'll definitely look into the iPad. I'd gone off the Cintiq a bit anyway as I don't do a hell of a lot of digital painting.
I'm quite happy with my Intuos/Ps/iMac combination, so I'd be more inclined to try and find an app that would replace Ps in the long run
and most of them seem to be just for the iPad or tablet etc.
I'd choose the Intuos over the Cintiq any day but that's just me.
Some people totally rave about them but I guess it's a case of what works best for you.
 

Levi

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...and another thing that's a bit shit about the Wacom.

It's not a stand alone bit of kit.
You need to use your keyboard too for certain things, especially if you rely on keyboard shortcuts although you can programme some of them into the Wacom.

Felt a bit like Jean Michel Jarre when i was using it, ;)
You could always buy a 3D connexion device (I would have said the old logitech nulooq but that got discontinued :(), you'd be surprised how useful it is in photoshop and the likes once you get used to it.