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    In what order should I learn this stuff?

    In an attempt to become a bit more of a catch (and to fill the time while things are so quiet) I've decided it's time I got my head round code. What I have read so far about HTML has refreshed what I already knew from Uni and I now feel like I'm getting a grasp of the basics. What I want to know is how much do I need to know for this to be of any use and in what order should I learn it?

    From what I gather XHTML is not a giant leap from HTML so it makes sense to lean as much as I can about HTML then go onto XHTML & CSS but what then? HTML5? Javascript? PHP? Would life be easier if I learned my way round Wordpress or Joomla?
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    You might as well just dive in and get used to HTML5 as it is the new standard.

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    Is HTML5 much more different than HTML? I've spent the day doing tutorials on that W3schools site (thanks by the way Dave) and it's been very easy to learn - the basics anyway.

    I am pretty much starting from scratch here. If HTML5 is the new standard, do I need to get my head around HTML, CSS and everything else before hand, or would I be fine going straight into HTML5?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ARRIVALS View Post
    Is HTML5 much more different than HTML? I've spent the day doing tutorials on that W3schools site (thanks by the way Dave) and it's been very easy to learn - the basics anyway.

    I am pretty much starting from scratch here. If HTML5 is the new standard, do I need to get my head around HTML, CSS and everything else before hand, or would I be fine going straight into HTML5?
    No difference, just extra stuff to play with. HTML as a language remains, what HTML5 does is add things like the <video></video> tag that gives you controls etc in a compliant browser. This avoids the need for a Flash Player to display a video in a website.

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    Ah I see. So I'll still need to learn the basics of HTML and CSS and HTML5 will just give me more things to play with afterwards?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ARRIVALS View Post
    Ah I see. So I'll still need to learn the basics of HTML and CSS and HTML5 will just give me more things to play with afterwards?
    Yarp!

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    I think css3 is quite significantly more advanced in the things you can do though. I'm struggling with that a bit at the mo...

    also on html there are some basic differences like header and nav tags that just give the browser more information about what parts of your site actually are.

    but im pretty sure corrosive know a lot more than me!

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    The really cool thing about CSS3 is that you can create items for a webpage with pure HTML/CSS that would normally have taken images to achieve. Here is a fantastic example; Tree with CSS3, literally

    On top of that the selectors available negate the need for adding extra classes to HTML to achieve things like removing a border from the end of a nav bar.

    The tricky thing for transition to CSS3 is that you can get away with having an enhanced look to a website for newer/better browsers. Say you have a gradient on a button in Chrome/FF/IE9/Safari but it is a solid colour in IE8 then you can live with that. But selectors you still need to be careful with.

    My suggestion, if you see anyone using a cr*p browser, just download Chrome for them whilst their backs are turned

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    Oh god!... my head hurts now!....
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigdave View Post
    Oh god!... my head hurts now!....
    Ha, ha. Now you know how I feel when people talk to me about print specifications! :icon_dunno:

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