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    Hi,

    @Bacon, I don't see the logic in starting to design using Joomla and diving into an MVC framework, when there's no underlying knowledge of the language itself

    If I was you, I'd just keep at it, keep designing static sites, have a look at some of the books on A Book Apart, get a copy of the most recent Designing with Web Standards by Zeldman, have a look at other stuff like Bulletproof web design (I think its called) by Dan Cederholm. When you become a bit more confident then look it into things like Wordpress, where you'll begin to learn the basic concepts of PHP which can be enhanced further when you start looking at things like Joomla, Drupal, Expression Engine etc.
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    Cheers Chris. Ive just bought a copy of HTML Dog, Best Practice XHTML & CSS. Having started reading it, I'm aware that its perhaps slightly out dated (I didn't realise that when I ordered it) but I think it'll give me as much knowledge as I need to get me up to speed.

    I'm not (and dont intend to be) a web designer but it does interest me in the same way that craft brewing interests me.
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    Yea defiantly work on static sites to begin with and stay away from things like joomla / wordpress to begin with.
    As mentioned although tables might seem to do the job ok, it really is best to use <div> elements and style them with css. It takes a while to get your head around first, but once you get the basic concepts of styling html with css you'll see the benefits.

    Re the design: I'm not sure on the combination of Arial / Sans Serif with the Old English typeface.

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    I knew that tables suck before I started the site but she was keen to get it done so I guessed that as long as it looks ok to her, it'd be ok. She's already on about having an ecommerce site built in a few years (which I've pointed out I wouldn't do)!
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