Not sure if I've posted anything similar before, I may have done. I noticed it before, but it seems VERY common now. Graphic/website designers all over the place who use free online builders like wix, moonfruit and yola, to create sites for their clients and offering it as a service. In fact, many are set up simply as 'website designers/developers', and have built up full portfolio's doing this, some of which are really impressive, really good visually. I'm certainly not bashing them, my own portfolio is hosted on a free builder, but it's literally there to point people I know to, I'm not actually marketing myself as such, so it suits me fine for now. I do know though that when I'm ready shortly, I'll have to build it properly or get someone to do it/help me. I know there's a market for every level and budget, but it seems a little weird charging a lot to create a site in what is a builder that literally anyone can access. Don't know if I'd be comfortable with it knowing the site probably wouldn't do anything for them, other than be a point of reference (which is fine if that's all they want). Not sure what my point is really, and I know it P's you developers off, and understand that under the bonnet so to speak, all isn't great with these online builders...Saying that though, a lot of them are offering HTML5 versions now...if anyone could explain the main differences between that and Flash based sites...Even though free builders will still produce bloated/dodgy code etc, is it actually better than Flash based? What do you think is behind the huge increase in people doing it this way and not bothering to learn it properly? (FWIW, I'm 'studying' web-design'...all the techy stuff but i'm thick! Do excuse me for being an hypocrite!) Forgive me if it's a non-nonsensical post, it's just a dose of my typical loud thoughts/rants. Any views or experiences?