I'd not long joined the old forum and then it disappeared! I'm guessing that this is it as a merger since it has most of the same members? :icon_confused::icon_biggrin: Anyway, I'm looking for a new computer, but due to (fairly tight) budget, I'm looking at a windows laptop (which I currently have, but it's falling apart!), or a used Imac/Macbook. Just wondering if its safe to go for a used Mac, or am I best just settling for another pc (which wasn't too bad to be fair), that is brand new? Are the older shape Macbook Pros any good and reliable?