The Furious Thread of Rage!!


scotty

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I recently gave my fool proof Yorkshire Pudding recipe the my Korean friend living in California.

They went down a storm. :D
 

Levi

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F***ing storm/thunder fly crawling around inside the screen of my £600 monitor!! Driving me mad!
Yeah midges (that's what we call them this way) are a pain, just imagine having a field of wheat just outside your house (literally across road) and it's just been cut so all looking for a new home... that's where they normally live until it's basically ripe, oh the joys of the country life lol

Been lucky so far, only had one or two crawling around inside the screen but they've not died on the screen which is a bonus, I've had that happen and couldn't do anything about it, then needed to move locations and the vibrations from the car ride (it was wrapped up safely obviously) actually worked it loose lol
 

Stationery Direct

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Yeah midges (that's what we call them this way) are a pain, just imagine having a field of wheat just outside your house (literally across road) and it's just been cut so all looking for a new home... that's where they normally live until it's basically ripe, oh the joys of the country life lol

Been lucky so far, only had one or two crawling around inside the screen but they've not died on the screen which is a bonus, I've had that happen and couldn't do anything about it, then needed to move locations and the vibrations from the car ride (it was wrapped up safely obviously) actually worked it loose lol
Yeah luckily the little fucker died out of view :D
 

Paul Murray

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So in January I met with a potential client (referred by a past client) who wanted their website redesigning. They were difficult to get hold of due to always being out of the office and never returning my emails (normally a bad sign), but on the numerous times since then that I did manage to catch them, they assured me they still wanted to give me the work. I was tempted to give up the chase but I didn't want them to go with someone else.

Fast forward to today and they have gone with a company that 'specialises' in churning out sites for their industry without even giving me a chance to quote. The resulting site is a generic theme with some really bad UX and terrible content architecture. Oh well.
 

fisicx

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Potential client in India who wanted a wedding registry site. The idea being brides could select a number of worthy causes and guests could donate. They wanted a full management suite with login, payment portal, charts showing total donations, email, SMS, social media and all the other bells and whistles including UI design.

We has some good discussions and I gave a quote. It all went quiet for some months then he cam back and said they couldn't get funding so could I do the job for $900. I said no so he's going to use some Indian developers who say they can do the job for $600.
 

hankscorpio

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Second tender in this week from the Government.

Looking for sample covers and spreads!

I turned down the 2nd one on the basis it's being treated like a design competition! Put it out to tender, get a few design options, and then get someone to do it the cheapest, is what I feel is happening.

Never will I supply samples of the actual work they want until they sign the bloody contracts.

I supplied recent similar work examples. I got their brand guidelines and got their previous samples of work previously done.

I supplied a price - take it or leave it!

No way am I doing work for FREE! Only to not win the damn tender!

I am currently working on projects that I've won the tender - and have paying clients waiting for their work to be completed!
 

scotty

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No way am I doing work for FREE! Only to not win the damn tender!
I've REALLY become against any sort of spec work, pitching and "design competitions" of any kind.

Only once did I do it when I was asked by a company that rhymes with Archie & Archie to design the mascots for an international sporting event that takes place every four years, the London one in 2012. If you get the idea?

I spent about a week solid on it including a large PDF presentation explaining it and to show how it would be rolled out across advertising and everything else.
It was a massive amount of work.

I did this because I thought it would be dumb to say no, especially as the company and the event was SO large.

I didn't get mine chosen but neither did I get anything else from it. Not even an acknowledgement of what I did.
I've never got anything else or even heard from the company to this day.
I signed an NDA so tight that I couldn't show what I did or even directly say what I did.
Not that I'm bitter.
Working for that particular event is supposed to be a poison chalice anyway.

I found out later that they'd asked quite a lot of UK designers to submit to it.

What I learned was NEVER to do any spec work or pitch for anything ever again, no matter how big the client or the prize as they are all built on the same exploitative ethic.

LESSON LEARNED!
 

sprout

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Spec work is immoral. Full stop.

‘Do my accounts for me and if I like the tax bill, I’ll pay you.’ How many accountants would go for this scenario?

I don’t play that game, ever. However, it prays on young, hungry designers. It’s just not right, whichever way you look at it.
 

scotty

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Spec work is immoral. Full stop.

‘Do my accounts for me and if I like the tax bill, I’ll pay you.’ How many accountants would go for this scenario?

I don’t play that game, ever. However, it prays on young, hungry designers. It’s just not right, whichever way you look at it.
I was viewing a post on a Facebook design group last night and a guy who ran a web design company wrote a post asking for people to do "thee unpaid tasks and the best would have the chance of working on paid commissions in the future".
He got tore to shreds but the worrying thing was the number of people that stepped up to his "opportunity" before the post was deleted by admin.
Like lambs to the slaughter.

The guy couldn't get his head around what he'd done wrong FFS!
 
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