right guys, why on earth are tables hated so much? Ok we can do most of it in CSS but sometimes, when you just want a quick layout for a specific bit of content, ie prices or something. Its so much easier to code it in html. I know that strict xhtml is supposed to be content only, i.e. Markup., but its still a million times easier to insert a table with x rows, y cols, z width, than it is to set it out in css. I know the flaming is coming, I keep away from tables because I know people dislike them, but i dont know why?! Sad i know, but a designer mate asked before and other than the strict markup explanation i cant see the problem.