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Professional Designer. Yay or Nay?

Discussion in 'Design Jobs & Employment Forum:' started by The Simulator, Apr 22, 2013.

  1. The Simulator

    The Simulator Active Member

    Just curious to see how many of you out there are full time professionals in the design field, whether it be self employed or at an agency, or in house, or whether you're doing it for a hobby, student etc.
     
  2. shaunalynn

    shaunalynn Active Member

    Yo!
    I have been a full time professional for the last two years and a full time freelancer for the last 3 months. Before that it was just the occasional freelance job.
     
  3. Basic

    Basic Member

    FT student for the next 5 weeks but been freelancing for 6 years. Only took it serious in the last 4. Realised I wasn't very good so been at uni for the last 3 years. I still have a part time job though so I don't have to stress about making money etc.
    It went from hobby to where I'm at now :)
     
  4. balders

    balders Member

    What makes somebody a professional?
     
  5. Jordan

    Jordan Active Member

    Getting paid to design. Earning a living from it.
     
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  6. The Simulator

    The Simulator Active Member

    'Bout sums it up.
     
  7. balders

    balders Member

    So if it's your job then your a professional? I disagree, maybe after 10+ years in an industry then you can call your self a professional.
     
  8. Basic

    Basic Member

    So what defines it? why 10 years?
     
  9. The Simulator

    The Simulator Active Member

    How on Earth do you figure that? So by that reckoning you're not a professional footballer until you've played for 10 years???
     
  10. balders

    balders Member

    When did we start talking about football?

    Anyway, I professional footballer wouldn't start out just playing at a professional level. They would obviously work up to it?
     
  11. balders

    balders Member

    So what defines it? why 10 years?

    10+ years was just an example of a period of time.
     
  12. The Simulator

    The Simulator Active Member

    A professional is someone who is paid for a skill...simple as that.
    Whether it's part time, full time, bit's on the side or your livelihood is irrelevant really.
     
  13. balders

    balders Member

    A professional is someone who is paid for a skill...simple as that.

    Whether it's part time, full time, bit's on the side or your livelihood is irrelevant really.

    So an eight year old washes a car for some extra cash pocket money, he's now a professional car washer?
     
  14. scotty

    scotty Well-Known Member

    If the 10 year rule is anything to go by then that makes me an "Old Pro". ;)
     
  15. balders

    balders Member

    That's not a bad idea, maybe professional needs a prefix. Old pro, new pro, bad pro, good pro, over priced pro.

    Anyway sorry to the op for going off subject.
     
  16. shaunalynn

    shaunalynn Active Member

    I can sort of see where Balders is coming from, simply because there are people in our industry that, well, suck at design yet earn money doing it an call themselves "professional graphic designers".
    I think it could essentially be a case by case thing. I consider myself a professional in my skill, since I actively practice it and get paid because clients like the work I do and trust me to do what I do best. Though I jokingly refer to myself as a professional doodler, because what I do for a living never feels like work. I guess that's the life goal, isn't it? But I also do work for legitimate organizations that, in turn, offer me lots of exposure that I would have not had had said company not paid for my skills. :)
     
  17. dedwardp

    dedwardp Member

    I'd go for someone who can earn all of their living from solely designing i.e. a non-league footballer earns money from it, but they are merely semi-professional as they're part-time.
    Until there are explicit standards or accreditations then I'm not sure how else you can define professional.
     
  18. balders

    balders Member

    There is, kind of http://www.csd.org.uk/
    "The Chartered Society of Designers (CSD) is the professional body for designers and the authority on professional design practice.
    It is the world's largest chartered body of professional designers with members in 33 countries and is unique in representing designers in all disciplines.
    CSD is governed by Royal Charter supported by the Byelaws and as such its members are required to practice to the highest professional standards."

    Anybody a member?

    You could look at ISO registration.
     
  19. Jordan

    Jordan Active Member

    Maybe you're confusing expert with professional? 10+ years in design industry you could call yourself an expert as more than likely you have encountered a great deal of experience.
    If you're employed full time, freelance full time - that is your profession, it pays for you to live.
     
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  20. balders

    balders Member

    I think you might be right, I just assume that a professional is also an expert.
    It can be your profession but does that make a profesional by default?
     

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