Graphic Design or Communication?

Levi said:
you'd also be surprised at what's needed at times for my work.

oh yeh mate, Im not putting you down, I was just making the point that most people who see themselves as a jack of all trades will naturally be stronger in one area than the others.

Some people Ive met in my time think they are a master of all areas just because they own a copy of dreamweaver or have read a few illustrator tutorials. I think Aarlevs quote 'Jack of all trades, Master of some' is quite accurate as I dont believe people can master every single discipline.

I feel like Im never gonna master the world of graphic design as there is so much to it and this is what I do 24/7.
 
davewill said:
oh yeh mate, Im not putting you down, I was just making the point that most people who see themselves as a jack of all trades will naturally be stronger in one area than the others.

Some people Ive met in my time think they are a master of all areas just because they own a copy of dreamweaver or have read a few illustrator tutorials. I think Aarlevs quote 'Jack of all trades, Master of some' is quite accurate as I dont believe people can master every single discipline.

I feel like Im never gonna master the world of graphic design as there is so much to it and this is what I do 24/7.
oh I agree there's always going to be people who think that they're better than they actually are, that's why my view is more on the level of proficiency rather than owning said software approach. The thing is with photoshop (and even my cad packages) I doubt even a pro would know every single aspect off the top of their heads, it's just too big a package

Like I've said I can play around with my own website but I don't advertise as a web designer and I detest working in illustrator, it's the complete opposite to my cad software.
 
This was an interesting debate lol =p I'm applying to study Graphic Design at university next year and I can see how it would be useful to be multi-skilled so that you have more job opportunities and you're flexible but I can also see how it would be good to have specialism and be able to have more experience in some areas. However, I don't believe that Print is dying and I think that there will always be a need for printed design and traditional processes despite the growing amount of digital platforms. Companies will always need logos and brochures, smaller companies will always need leaflets and posters, authors will always need illustrations...If anything printed design is kind of a break from screen-based design, and its something that viewers can actually interact with, without clicking buttons and staring at a computer screen. I can also see how coding would be useful and its something that I would like to learn in the future but I don't think not being able to code means I won't get a job in the design industry after uni =s Also personally, i'm not particularly interested in coding or anything atm and i'm sure there are other designers who aren't and are very successful in the industry. Maybe there will be a few more job opportunities having skills with coding but even in 3/4 years I doubt that there will be a greater demand for coders than for graphic designers. Thats just my opinion though and it will be interesting to see what happens in the next few years =)
 
Berry said:
Not really, I've been in this business nearly 40 years at the highest level and have hired hundreds. I've seen jobs and roles appear and dissappear. Design died when the word 'menu' appeared on a Mac. Photography, Print. Newspapers and all form of traditional media and medium has to evolve and adapt to survive. But only those that adapt will continue. the modern designer will be code based. This is the digital age. Digital is based on the binary code. Computers do not read emmotion, they read numbers. Those who can read the code will dictate how technology and design will survive together.
Learn to Code.

How do you code a logo? How does learn to code help you to understand how any content, on screen or printed, is percepted? Can you code me a good photograph? :confused:
 
...or an illustration.
Life goes on beyond the world of the code bunny.
The ability 'draw' is still needed and over looked by sum.
 
Well, I am not saying that anyone can stop the digital age :) But it takes a lot more than the ability to code to be a designer; maybe, perish the thought, that ability is not even needed at all ... ;)
 
The ability to code was the thing of the future when I trained up. PMT cameras and Letraset were the norm.
I agree that the web is the future but good design does not have to be web based.
 
IMHO good design (or any design) is not based on any medium. If you can make good design, you can learn to use any tool or medium to make it. If you can not make good design no tool or medium in the whole world can help you ;)
 
I am 100% positive 1 year ago berry would argue to the teeth the exact opposite to his earlier statement.
 
br3n said:
I am 100% positive 1 year ago berry would argue to the teeth the exact opposite to his earlier statement.

Possibly. But to survive you have to adapt to the conditions that exist. I still like brochures and ads but the harsh reality is there are more cost effective ways to communicate at present.
There will always be Graphic Designers, but to survive you have to be very very good, and in dwindling world the harsh reality is the vast majority out there are simply not.
It's no different than the many actors waiting tables. You have to eat. And there is not enough work for everyone. Not in this field anymore. No ones going to pay a mortgage on a few logos.

Adapt and survive.
 
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