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Getting into the work place.

Discussion in 'General Business Forum:' started by Fruitbat, Jul 21, 2012.

  1. Fruitbat

    Fruitbat Member

    Hey!

    I've recently been applying for graphic design jobs around the UK just to get a bit of feedback really.. as I'm in uni for another 2 years!

    Im just wondering if it is actually possible to get a good graphic design job with no degree? Almost all of the job posts i've seen for junior graphic designers say:
    Degree or equivalent in graphic design or similar/visual communication & in-depth knowledge of photoshop, indesign and illustrator.

    I know it's not physically possible for me to get a job as my skills are now as I'm useless on illustrator (work in progress)! I'm just curious.

    Also this is my temp online folio.. what would employers like to see, baring in mind I'm aiming to be a graphic designer for a clothing brand or apparel print designer.
    cargocollective.com/no13

    thanks x
     
  2. Levi

    Levi Moderator Staff Member

    Realistically with the current economic climate etc getting a job in design with no degree will require a top notch portfolio and a LOT of luck. On equal portfolios you will nearly always lose out to someone with a degree.

    When you come out of uni you have my personal favourite requirement... graduate designer with 2-3 years WORK experience to contend with too... yeah thats a graduate there alright lol
     
  3. Fruitbat

    Fruitbat Member

    Thanks for the info :D
    People never believe me when i tell them how awkward it is to get a good graphic design job at my student level They seem to think it's making pretty pictures & easy to get into!
     
  4. Levi

    Levi Moderator Staff Member

    ah students, all confident etc, that will change :up:
     
  5. Fruitbat

    Fruitbat Member

    Im not a confident student :S i've got miles to go before I even scratch the surface =S
     
  6. Fruitbat

    Fruitbat Member

    Yeah I can imagine!
    No work placements as of yet as I am only moving into year two.. we do have the option to do it though & I'm glad that my uni & course head/co ordinator has great industry links.

    I've got plenty of freelance experience in the field id like to have a career in but even that would not interest an employer at the moment.
     
  7. Squiddy

    Squiddy Guest

    Have you considered freelancing in a more permanent role?
     
  8. kayak_nut

    kayak_nut Member

    why not find a local agency you like the look of and offer to work for them for free for a month if you can? Also dont always rely on an electronic portfolio, I love it when i have interviews who bring a touchy feely portfolio
     
  9. Fruitbat

    Fruitbat Member

    not whilst being at uni and working a part time job & training. Id consider it after a decent work placement after university but i'll just see what direction i go in through my 3rd year of uni i guess.
     
  10. Fruitbat

    Fruitbat Member

    Given it a go but there aren't many agencies around where I'm from or any design related job really which is disappointing. I do have a large A1 portfolio :) we had to get them done for uni interviews so I'm constantly updating that through freelance and uni work :) x
     
  11. Squiddy

    Squiddy Guest

    So have you not considered taking up freelancing to replace your part-time job?

    Please also remember to use the edit button if you've forgotten to say something originally, instead of double posting.
     
  12. Fruitbat

    Fruitbat Member

    Well yes, but at the moment I need a steady income & for now with my ability level, i can;t guarantee that with freelance.
     
  13. Squiddy

    Squiddy Guest

    Well, work doesn't just magically appear out of thin air ;) I would argue that it's actually easier to get freelance work now because it's more cost effective than using an agency or design company who have to charge a premium to cover all of their business overheads.

    What effort have you put in to getting freelance work? It might actually be one of your better options.
     
  14. Fruitbat

    Fruitbat Member

    I know it doesn't hah. I've got business cards, Facebook page, online portfolio, advertising my design service in the local area, online etc

    I've got enough freelance work coming in for apparel print design (the sort of stuff I do is on my online portfolio) also have a little bit of branding work coming in for clothing lines etc but thats all I'm willing to do at the moment until my all-round skills improve. I don;t want to be creating work that isn't up to the standard I want it to be.. so part time work and freelancing in my spare time seems the only realistic option when I'm moving out etc
     
  15. rossnorthernunion

    rossnorthernunion Senior Member

    If you've got an awesome* portfolio of work and are willing to work for free or for expenses on a placement / internship / short term to show how good you this shouldn't be a problem.

    I've had a few jobs in my time - all have asked for the old 'educated to degree level' bit - not one employer has asked what grade i got, they did ask to what university i went to though.



    *by awesome i don't mean some decent stuff that your mates like - i mean the **** hottest of **** hot portfolios EVER. Like whats been said - too many graduates - no where near enough roles. You're competing against students, graduates, unemployed designers of all levels - it's hard.

    A job won't find you - you've got to find it. And show the employer you want it. A lot.


    Then and only then can you piss around on twitter and facebook all day...
     
  16. Fruitbat

    Fruitbat Member

    Well I for sure don;t have a **** hot portfolio yet but i do work my ass off for absolutely everything i want to achieve.

    Im just going to continue to freelance and improve, finish uni & get the best folio I can and then chase what I want to do
     
  17. kayak_nut

    kayak_nut Member

    chris, if your porty isnt s*** hot then do some speculative work when you get time, pick something you want to do and do it, I found the RNLI and shelter were quite happy to use the speculative stuff I did for them for free, and they made great portfolio pieces for quite a few years.
     
  18. Levi

    Levi Moderator Staff Member

  19. Fruitbat

    Fruitbat Member


    Thanks for the tips! always really appreciated from everyone.

    I do a load of t-shirt and apparel design/print design & that would be my ideal job but i know it does;t always work that way. I really need branding &identity design practice more than anything at the moment!

    i'll 100% give the old comps a go on here to test myself x
     
  20. Squiddy

    Squiddy Guest

    I hadn't seen that before Levi, it took me a while to actually find your entry, page 17 I believe..! It was worth it though, good stuff! Can't wait for the next comp! ;)
     

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