Baseline Grids

Evening all,

Can anybody shed any light on how to get baseline grids to fit exactly within margins in indesign?

Is there any website offering guidance or a easy to use calculator, or is trial and error figuring it out on the go infront of you?

Thanks in advance,
 
Nope - each is different.

Typically for a lot of publications I will use the cannons of page design

https://www.google.ie/search?safe=o...mMDXAhXD2qQKHZHdCEkQvwUIJSgA&biw=1123&bih=677

Means that you get great page harmony, no matter what size shape of the page.

Then you can grid it out, and define your baseline grids based on each layout.

https://helpx.adobe.com/indesign/using/grids.html
https://helpx.adobe.com/indesign/using/frame-grid-properties.html
http://www.peachpit.com/articles/article.aspx?p=715532&seqNum=5
http://www.tech4pub.com/2013/07/09/indesign-tip-create-a-custom-baseline-grid/
 
I know this is an old thread but rather than create a new one I thought I'd post my question in here following on from what you said:

Typically for a lot of publications I will use the cannons of page design

How does this work in modern design, as there is far too much space at the bottom of the page due to the high bottom margin and the inside margins are too narrow, as books are generally not opened all the way flat (unless wire bound). While I admire cannons of page construction, I do not see how it can work for a standard sized story book for example (5" x 8"), the margins don't seem to be set out like that. I naturally use the idea of it in design but I can't use the exact method, as I don't see books with margins like that in this day and age.
 
This is more to do with baseline grids, but I'll often cheat and set my baseline grid after I've got my type looking nice. Fonts are different and not all look good with the same leading or paragraph spacing as others so I tend to get my spacing and stuff looking how I want it, then I set my baseline grids to match that. I find this is just a bit quicker and easier than the back and fourth of adjusting the baseline grid in the preferences to get the type looking good, if that makes sense?
 
It's not really to do with baseline grids - if you look at the examples, they give 2 modern takes on the canons of page design.

I use it regularly to get going, sure I might drop the bottom margin, but generally the canons give you could ratio for the side panels where you can insert graphs, quotes, etc. down the sides.

The area that is large down the bottom is great for footnotes etc.

It all looks very neat and works for any size publication that I've tried it for.
 
It's not really to do with baseline grids - if you look at the examples, they give 2 modern takes on the canons of page design… I use it regularly to get going, sure I might drop the bottom margin

Yeah that's I meant I'll sometimes set up a block of text/columns, then adjust the bottom margins and baseline grid to match that. So it's not fitting the ration 100% but it's close enough.
 
I think of it as a guide more so than a definitive way of producing work.

Yes, that is what I was getting at. I use it as a guide for a starting point if you like but ultimately I have to lower the bottom margin quite a bit and widen the inner and outer margins a tad.

PS. I've seen those examples before, they seem to be the only examples online haha; I do feel a couple of them are kind of forcing it just for the sake of the example, almost to the point were you could make up any layout and justify it working with an example. My original point is, if you pick up any book right now, the pages will not be laid out within the Van de Graaff page layout nearly as perfectly as those examples do.
 
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