[neildigital]

Originally Posted by TheOnlinePrintCompany

Completely agree with you on all points.

What gets me is "Business Cards from £20.00 for 250", what are these made of? how shoddy is the print? whats the finish? is that plus or excluding VAT? whats the delivery? and who's printing them obviously a "reseller".

I have lost two customers today to a "Unamed Online Printer" that supply absolutely rubbish business cards for FREE plus postage, you will know the company, and you'll know the quality of the product I'm taliking about but ultimately if the customer wants to betray their own company and portray a poor image of the business who am I to stop them.

Rant Over.

TheOnlinePrintCompany, I would like to say quoting my price is great, but atleast name me.....

and for your information, £20 for 250 is my standard price, which is full colour both sides, printed on 400gsm bright white stock, and next day courier signed delivery. Turnaround 24 hours.

And printed, cut, packed by myself.....

Neil

PS, if you check out some of my thanks you around the forums, there is nothing shoddy about my work!

[TheOnlinePrintCompany]

Hi Neil

My post wasn't aimed your your good self I have heard lots of positive feedback on your service and would never put down a fellow printer except one which I still won't name. I apologise if you feel this is aimed at yourself and can see how this may have been perceived but this was not intentional I could have put any price or any quantities it just happens that this is one of your offers which I now realise.

Please do not take personal offence to this I was just making a broad statement about my feelings toward this type of marketing not stating quality / finish etc.

Best wishes

Ryan

[Davidw]

Originally Posted by neildigital

TheOnlinePrintCompany, I would like to say quoting my price is great, but atleast name me.....

and for your information, £20 for 250 is my standard price, which is full colour both sides, printed on 400gsm bright white stock, and next day courier signed delivery. Turnaround 24 hours.

And printed, cut, packed by myself.....

Neil

PS, if you check out some of my thanks you around the forums, there is nothing shoddy about my work!

Hi

I see from your website you have "20 years experience in print".

I can't help wondering why you put such a low value on your time and expertise - surely 20 years worth of knowledge and a top quality product on 400gsm is worth more than 20 quid inc delivery?

The problem is these prices spoil it for firms who are charging a realistic price - and eventually we are ALL
worse off.

What does anybody think. ?

[TheOnlinePrintCompany]

Originally Posted by Davidw

Hi

I see from your website you have "20 years experience in print".

I can't help wondering why you put such a low value on your time and expertise - surely 20 years worth of knowledge and a top quality product on 400gsm is worth more than 20 quid inc delivery?

The problem is these prices spoil it for firms who are charging a realistic price - and eventually we are ALL
worse off.

What does anybody think. ?

There is an element of devaluing our industry Davidw but business is business, if Neil can charge or give away business cards for £20.00 and it generates him business and profit on other products then you can't really blame him.

I personally and like most businesses openly admit I make profit on our business cards and print but our clients are happy to pay more for the quality of product we offer so I think Neil might actually be cutting his nose off to spite his face, unless he makes profit on what I would imagine is a loss leader.

[neildigital]

Hi Davidw and onlinePrint,

Many thanks for worrying about my profit, but I have to tell you guys, I would quite happily print business cards at £20 all day long. Not sure of your costs etc, but let me re-assure you these are not lost leaders.

With 20 years experience, I have setup processes and equipment that make this pricing ver good and I can tell you both, clients who have my business cards and my bank manager are very happy..

And too finish up, if either of you wish to send me a pdf of a job, happy to print some samples and send them. Maybe I could print yours, and then you do not orry about them and still make profit at your higher prices. Again as I do for so many Print Management Companies.

Neil