Logo advice

Ginger Egg

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Hi all,

Currently working on a project for a company steeped in heritage. The project is for a company within the rugby sports industry. Bacically the design must represent their long standing involvement in the rugby world, clearly identify rugby within the mark and be able to be used as branding without text on high end casual wear.
Does anyone have any suggestions on the mark? I have played around with all sorts of rugby ball designs but they don’t seem to fit the brand. Abstract strikes seem too modern and not really suited to clothing. I’m hitting a wall here!

Any advice greatly appreciated.
 
Rugby ball-shaped oval with their monogram inside, done in an antique way?

An arm holding a ball, done simply and stylishly?

Please tell me their name begins with H, then it could double as goal posts!
 
Thank you. I wish! It’s a R. They are adamant about the posts and ball being in there. Think I will do that for them and one of my own
 
Omg that is a tough one! I like the idea of a ball shaped oval but instead of a monogram , or maybe instead of a monogram just use type and companies name on it. Are u already sketch something? :)
 
A serif typeface (Adobe Garamond Pro for example) uppercase R with the white space in the R replaced with a rugby ball shape. Ball = rugby, elegant serif typeface = heritage.

Let us know how you get on...
 
My eldest plays rugby.
Last week he got the man of the match and had to do a strange ritual which included downing a pint of cordial with a chip in it.

I'm not sure how this affects logo design but it might be worth keeping in mind. ;)
 
I am a professional graphic design specialist and I find using serif and sans serif fonts gives my logos a more modern look and feel which looks a lot cleaner and professional and helps me communicate a message visually and a lot more professional of a look, For modern businesses I design for. I found that it is better not to add a stroke to the text on my logos and it gives my logos a cleaner feel especially when going for a modern look and feel which I found a lot more companies are leaning towards this modern look in 2017. Adding a stroke to text in a logo makes me think of the 1990's which is way outdated and looks sloppy for most modern designs. So I just wanted to share my experiences I have had with teachers and clients on this matter. I recently designed a men's luxury watch ad and these factors helped me get paid for this job.
 
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Selling your skills for less than an hourly rate is not clever or smart and it's not going to make you a better designer. A lot of these websites use people who have no training in design -they steal logos, change them to other names, do not know colour theory, they infringe copyrights, and steal fonts.

It's no place for a designer to be - STOP USING THEM.

For future reference - you're entering a "competition" that offers the "winner" a very low price - which means they've effectively got 100's of designs to choose from - and only pay 1 person - usually below minimum wage.

Every day, there are more and more online requests seeking artists for everything from auto graphics to comic books to corporate logo designs. More people are finding themselves in need of some form of illustrative service.

But what theyre NOT doing, unfortunately, is realizing how rare someone with these particular talents can be.

To those who are seeking artists, let me ask you; How many people do you know, personally, with the talent and skill to perform the services you need? A dozen? Five? One? none?

More than likely, you dont know any. Otherwise, you wouldnt be posting online to find them.

And this is not really a surprise.

All over the world, there are almost twice as many neurosurgeons as there are professional illustrators. There are eleven times as many certified mechanics. There are SEVENTY times as many people in the IT field.

So, given that they are less rare, and therefore less in demand, would it make sense to ask your mechanic to work on your car for free? Would you look him in the eye, with a straight face, and tell him that his compensation would be the ability to have his work shown to others as you drive down the street?

Would you offer a neurosurgeon the opportunity to add your name to his resume as payment for removing that pesky tumor? (Maybe you could offer him a few bucks for materials. What a deal!)

Would you be able to seriously even CONSIDER offering your web hosting service the chance to have people see their work, by viewing your website, as their payment for hosting you?

If you answered yes to ANY of the above, youre obviously insane. If you answered no, then kudos to you for living in the real world.

But then tell me why would you think it is okay to live out the same, delusional, ridiculous fantasy when seeking someone whose abilities are even less in supply than these folks?

Graphic artists, illustrators, painters, etc., are skilled tradesmen. As such, to consider them as, or deal with them as, anything less than professionals fully deserving of your respect is both insulting and a bad reflection on you as a sane, reasonable person. In short, it makes you look like a twit.

A few things you need to know;

1. It is not a great opportunity for an artist to have his work seen on your car/zine/website/bedroom wall, etc. It IS a great opportunity for YOU to have their work there.

2. It is not clever to seek a student or beginner in an attempt to get work for free. Its ignorant and insulting. They may be students, but that does not mean they dont deserve to be paid for their hard work. You were a student once, too. Would you have taken that job at McDonalds with no pay, because you were learning essential job skills for the real world? Yes, your proposition it JUST as stupid.

3. The chance to have their name on something that is going to be seen by other people, whether its one or one million, is NOT a valid enticement. Neither is the right to add that work to their portfolio. They get to do those things ANYWAY, after being paid as they should. Its not compensation. Its their right, and its a given.

4. Stop thinking that youre giving them some great chance to work. Once they skip over your silly ad, as they should, the next ad is usually for someone who lives in the real world, and as such, will pay them. There are far more jobs needing these skills than there are people who possess these skills.

5. Students DO need experience. But they do NOT need to get it by giving their work away. In fact, this does not even offer them the experience they need. Anyone who will not/can not pay them is obviously the type of person or business they should be ashamed to have on their resume anyway. Do you think professional contractors list the experience they got while nailing down a loose step at their grandmothers house when they were seventeen?

If you your company or gig was worth listing as desired experience, it would be able to pay for the services it received. The only experience they will get doing free work for you is a lesson learned in what kinds of scrubs they should not lower themselves to deal with.

6. (This one is FOR the artists out there, please pay attention.) Some will ask you to submit work for consideration. They may even be posing as some sort of contest. These are almost always scams. They will take the work submitted by many artists seeking to win the contest, or be chosen for the gig, and find what they like most. They will then usually have someone who works for them, or someone who works incredibly cheap because they have no originality or talent of their own, reproduce that same work, or even just make slight modifications to it, and claim it as their own. You will NOT be paid, you will NOT win the contest. The only people who win, here, are the underhanded folks who run these ads. This is speculative, or spec, work. Its risky at best, and a complete scam at worst. I urge you to avoid it, completely. For more information on this subject, please visit www.no-spec.com.

So to artists/designers/illustrators looking for work, do everyone a favor, ESPECIALLY yourselves, and avoid people who do not intend to pay you. Whether they are spec gigs, or just some guy who wants a free mural on his living room walls. They need you. You do NOT need them.

And for those who are looking for someone to do work for free please wake up and join the real world. The only thing youre accomplishing is to insult those with the skills you need. Get a clue.
 
hey there! to make it perfect, you have to make it simple. Be concern about the color combination.

Best of Luck
 
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