Branding Tender fears

[gprovan]

Hi All,

We've been given the opportunity to tender for a new council trust logo and branding. We're up against a couple of big agencies and haven't really done anything to this scale before.

It's a fairly rush job and they want to see 3 alternative logos incorporating the main identity and sub brands along with some visuals depicting the logos in various communication channels.

Do you think as well as the above, that we have to write some poncey text detailing why the logo speaks to their customers and how the letters within the logo each represent freedom, giraffes and banjos? Or that kind of thing.

Or should we let the logos speak for themselves?

Any advice would be great.

Thanks,

Graeme

[sthomas]

If you won't be getting a chance to present the work in person, then I'd definitely write some text to accompany the presentation.

It doesn't have to be 'poncey' but it will at least explain your thinking behind the logos.

It's going to be tough with other larger agencies competing for the same job so you might as well maximise your chances but delivering a substantial tender presentation.

[John (Heaton Creative)]

If it was me pitching I'd definitely write a little copy explaining the concepts behind the logo and the branding.

You can bet your life the other agencies will do it, so it makes sense to go into the pitch on an equal footing.

Good luck, hope you're successful.

[Toppers]

You should be putting together a complete portfolio for your designs.

- An introduction
- The brief
- Initial concepts, discussing research, inspirations and the thought process behind the design
- Developed concepts
- Concepts of prospective stationery and signage
- Conclusion
- Also, if you are up against agencies, i'd begin to consider putting together some guidelines as well.

I know that you are only submitting three ideas, but if you show that your company will do just as much, or even more than the BIG agencies, then this may charm the council enough to give you the work!

[sdesign1]

Just as an aside regarding tenders, you can kill yourself putting together a tender, so check their scoring system and see if subjectively you could get 70% plus. If not I'd be inclined to walk away.

[gprovan]

Some good advice, thanks.

I also forgot that we've only got about 2 weeks to do this, so I'm going to have to knuckle down. :icon_scared:

[ARRIVALS]

You're presenting your designs to them so you're going to be explaining the design process etc to them anyway. Whether you say it or write it down makes no difference.

Out of curiosity, did they come to you or did you find out they were putting this out to tender and decide to get involved? If you found it of your own accord, where do you find prospective jobs like these?

Also, you may want to find out if they are paying for your presentation.

[Minuteman Press]

Poncey text - no.

Text that will convey the concept, vision, messaging, usage guidelines, adaptability etc - yes.
I have been on both sides of the table with such projects - if the approach is 'poncey' you'll be politely listened to and receive a 'no'.

Help the client to understand the brand you've created / developed.

Arrivals: Make sure you're on the radar with organisations you'd like to work with. PM if you wish.

[gprovan]

Of course I'm only joking about the 'poncey' bit. I realise that I'll have to put something together but feel a little overwhelmed by the urgency of it all and the fact that I don't have a team of copywriters behind me.

We already do a fair bit of work for the council and they've been happy with our work so this is why they've asked us. They've also asked a couple of big design agencies that have branded other authorities. Kind of a tried and tested methodology, so this is a bit daunting too.

Luckily the submissions will be by email and I won't have to do a formal presentation.

They've given a generous budget for the winning submission and also want to know our hourly rate for further work. But as far as the tender goes, it won't be paid unless successful.

[ARRIVALS]

Thanks for that minuteman, message sent.

That's a good sign then. The fact they've taken the time to invite you to present something puts you in a good position. They have experienced how you work on the design and business side of things and like it. They may well have invited larger agencies to present something, and they may well be bigger and better than you, but that means nothing if they just don't like how they do things. So I wouldn't worry about that

If you've not got the opportunity to tell them about your design process, then you will have to write it somewhere. Obviously not in a 'poncey' way like you said. You don't need a copywriter. Just explain in simple terms, how you got to the design and why.

Good luck!