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    Didn't realise you'd actually proceeded to print. Yikes! A big rule for me - probably the one most tailored to protecting my business - is to never (like, ever) do anything that's going to cost the client money until all aspects of it have been seen and signed-off - and always by the client: I will not get involved in approving anything that's in any way out of my hands.

    Furthermore, if I anything did ever result in me somehow failing to observe the rule, I've made sure I have the appropriate insurance in place to cough for a re-print - was that not an option here?

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    Dave - from what you're saying all you've done is misinterpret the client's wishes...and the client couldn't say exactlly what they wanted. This is where you need to have samples to show... a client might ask for 115gsm thinking it's thicker than 80gsm but really want 170gsm! I always show my clients something on the same or very similar stock. If it hasn't truly ruined your reputation why rebrand? If you use a rebrand to reposition yourself away from the 'cheap' stuff it could be good. Or you could have 2 websites/names that you trade under and run one as a budget outfit and one as a posh...and see which one does best!
    Just a thought.

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    1. Never assume anything or leave anything to chance where money changing hands is conditional on a specific outcome.

    2. If you're worried about damage to your reputation it's implied that you have a reputation worth protecting and cutting all ties with your former self because of a mistake is tantamount to throwing a hissy fit (and, frankly, a bit dishonest). I've worked with printers who've made mistakes and (possibly a slightly different thing, but...) I've always felt that it speaks well of a business where they take pains to try and make amends: perhaps consider how you might go about this.

    3. No reason why a business can't serve a range of differently placed clients under the same banner: a job's a job and it can be done well or it can be done badly: that is all.

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    I've been considering dumping Bleed Ink for a number of reasons, firstly because I worry that recent event will have made the company appear amateurish and therefore make it hard to find future business. But also that for some weeks now it's become apparent that Bleed Ink is not so much a partnership but more of just me as an individual with the occasional creative suggestion from emma. Whist it doesn't cause me an issue being Bleed Ink the one man band, it does concern me again that it may be perceived as amateurish or as me trying to sound more important than I am.

    Having said that and having had a day or two to mull things over, I don't think it would benefit me professionally to change the company name from Bleed Ink to David Hudson Graphic Design (that's the alternative) but I do want to reposition the company image including moving away from the existing logo and colour scheme. The logo it's self is a nice piece of design but as time goes on, I've realised that it's form is somewhat cumbersome and doesn't fit well into many situations. As for the company colour, I worry that the vibrant red maybe leads to too much negative emphasis on the word 'bleed'.

    I've also had an email today from the client who's print job started all of this. We appear to have a well respected mutual friend who has popped into his office and calmed the waters. The email ended "It's not the end of the world, It's just a mix-up, don't worry.", which has made me feel brighter about the whole thing. He's not asked for a refund (and I've not offered) but I have offered to cover part of the cost of his next job should he feel he'd like to give me another chance.
    www.bleedink.co.uk York based web, design and print

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    Then that's a positive outcome for you and your business. I was going to say, has the client seen the deliverables? Or were you just worrying in anticipation?

    My advice was going to be; don't worry about it until the client has gotten in touch about it, but, seen as they've already seen it, seems like you must have had the weight lifted off your shoulders already! Good stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigdave View Post
    I've also had an email today from the client who's print job started all of this. We appear to have a well respected mutual friend who has popped into his office and calmed the waters. The email ended "It's not the end of the world, It's just a mix-up, don't worry.", which has made me feel brighter about the whole thing. He's not asked for a refund (and I've not offered) but I have offered to cover part of the cost of his next job should he feel he'd like to give me another chance.
    Yay! It was just a mix-up - hope you're feeling better about it all now. Sh*t happens! I hope that he does give you another chance as you've been very generous to offer a discount (effectively!)

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    Good to see that is has been resolved somewhat.

    As said, you can always have a bit of a rebrand without needing to totally start from scratch and if you gradually ease yourself back towards the market you were intending to reach then I'm sure you'll get there eventually.

    If you make sure the work looks of a high standard then there's no reason why you can't justifiably quote the higher prices or approach those with the larger budgets that you're after.

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    I always think you can gauge the professionalism of an individual or a company by how well they handle mistakes.

    You're only human, things like this happen and accepting and admitting you made a mistake speaks volumes for you, rather than simply hiding the fact via a rebrand. It seems sneaky and underhand to change your name every time a client isn't happy (think Rogue Traders).

    If you're not happy with Bleed Ink though, perhaps a rebrand for the new year is an option. It will allow you to focus again and start with a clear head. Just be sure to email your clients to inform them you're changing the name. Why not even write a little press release/blog post detailing your reasons?

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    If your not making mistakes then your not learning..

    Everyone makes mistakes, its just some people are more honest than others.

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    I have to say, this feels like a million years ago now. Despite the good will between myself and the client I've heard nothing else from him (and dont really expect to). I have however had a call from our mutual friend asking if I'd be able to arrange his print for him in future as he simply doesn't have time.
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